Commons:Deletion requests/File:Joker art dream a.i.jpg

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File:Joker art dream a.i.jpg[edit]

Derivative work of DC Comics' Joker Trade (talk) 17:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Keep per {{PD-algorithm}}: this is just a piece of art made by an AI algorithm, with no human authorship at all. As far as I know, clown make ups are not copyrighted. Fma12 (talk) 18:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thoughts? @Omphalographer: --Trade (talk) 20:58, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Delete. Just as in Commons:Deletion requests/File:Silver skin man a.i.jpg, In some cases, [image-generating AI] models can produce images that contain major copyrightable elements of those copyrighted training images, making these outputs derivative works. This case is even more clear-cut than the Silver Surfer image; the image specifically reproduces distinctive creative elements from the DC Comics character such as purple clothing, green hair, blue diamonds surrounding the eyes, and a red extended "smile" around the mouth. While it's true that all of these elements can individually appear in "clown makeup", this specific arrangement is uniquely associated with the character of the Joker. Omphalographer (talk) 21:20, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Delete unambiguous derivative work Dronebogus (talk) 12:44, 8 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 KeepVery much agree with Fma12. Why do people think clowns with make-up are somehow copyrightable? --Prototyperspective (talk) 11:56, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleted: Per nominator, Omphalographer, and Dronebogus. This is not an arbitrary "clown with make-up" but intentionally, and obviously, based on DC Comics' Joker, as is also made clear by the image's title and description (it says "Joker", not "some clown with make-up"). If you instruct an AI to create an image based on a particular, copyrighted work/character, the AI output as such is, indeed, not copyrightable (that is, the AI can add nothing that would create copyright), but the underlying work still is, and if it's so recognizable as here, it's a derivative work. --Gestumblindi (talk) 22:11, 22 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]